1. Isaiah

    Hi. I recently discovered the debate on the meaning of repentance. So far I’ve sided that it is a change of mind.

    But there is a verse or two that has given me doubts.

    In proverbs 28:13 it says that mercy is on the condition of confessing and forsaking sin.

    Secondly, while people say “repent of your sins” is not in the KJV, it does say to thyatira “I gave her space to repent of her fornications”.

    How do you reconcile these two issues to the idea that repentance is Not turning from sin?

    • Hello there,

      To answer your question we have to read the context of the Bible, that is what most ‘repent of your sins’ people do not understand. Context is everything and Satan reads the Bible without any kind of context, this is how verses get twisted. In proverbs 28:13 it’s talking about saving the flesh and your flesh having mercy. Because we already know our sins are paid for, which means we can never go to hell so that is not what it’s talking about, scripture cannot contradict itself. Look to Hebrews 12:6 – For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. So when we sin and that sin continues without us confessing it and turning from it, we will be chastises by God.

      Secondly, in Revelation 2:21 – And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not. this has nothing to do with salvation. None of the ‘turn from your sins’ stuff is ever about salvation, it’s impossible because turning from sin is a works and salvation is not of works lest any man should boast.

      And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not. – Jonah 3:10

      Notice how God sees their works, which was turning from their sin? To turn from sin for salvation is a work, it will land you in hell. We should turn from sins after we are saved because we do not want to be chastised by God, but if you read 1 Corinthians it becomes clear even when you have the Holy Spirit you are not automatically turning from sin or hating sin etc. It’s all a choice, people who tell you anything different are liars and accursed.

      But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. – Galatians 1:8

      God bless you. If you add me on facebook (Edward Cherubim Church) I will invite you to a group with true Christians and you can ask as many questions as you want.

        • Amen, I will pray for you and yes Satan always does attack when we have the truth, I can attest to that. If you ever have any questions, just ask me. 🙂 I will always answer. God bless you.

  2. So, Jesus must not only be first in one s affections, but his will must come first in one s life. An individual s will must be submitted to the will of Jesus Christ.

    • No they do not, what you are preaching is lordship salvation. You do not have to submit to the will of God to be saved. All you have to do, again, like the Bible says over 120+ times is that you simply have to trust the finished works of Jesus Christ to enter into Heaven. It is free. If you had to do something for it, even submit to His will or love Him or do anything for it, it would be works.

  3. Donnie

    Except that it is biblical. James 2:14-26 Clearly states that unless you have works you have NO salvation. This is because although salvation is free and a gift, it requires our faith to receive it. Without works your faith is dead and you are unsaved.
    14What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him? 15If a brother or sister is poorly clothed and lacking in daily food, 16and one of you says to them, “Go in peace, be warmed and filled,” without giving them the things needed for the body, what goodb is that?17So also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

    18But someone will say, “You have faith and I have works.” Show me your faith apart from your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder!20Do you want to be shown, you foolish person, that faith apart from works is useless? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered up his son Isaac on the altar? 22You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was completed by his works; 23and the Scripture was fulfilled that says, “Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness”—and he was called a friend of God. 24You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. 25And in the same way was not also Rahab the prostitute justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out by another way? 26For as the body apart from the spirit is dead, so also faith apart from works is dead also

  4. Mark

    God is the same yesterday, today and forever. Just as the Old testament Saints were saved by Grace through Faith where the fruit of works followed.So are the Saints of today.____Hebrews

  5. Daniel

    Hey. I want you to pray for this believer named Oleksiy M.
    He used to preach against lordship salvation but now he foolishly embraces it and doesn’t believe in a literal hell anymore. Nearly shipwrecked my faith. Christian millennium. com is his website.

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